I'm going to guess that's what the rep was trying to explain Of course your refinsher will apply a sample of EACH sealer on your freshly sanded floors so that you can DECIDE on the one you like (and will include a coat of the HD finish in the gloss level you have chosen.so that you can be 100% SURE of what you are choosing). Thank you for suggesting Bona Mega One. Thank you SJ McCarthy for your expertise and explanation of time between coats, drying time and curing time. Several dollars per square foot would be expectedthen you add the $4-$5/sf for the finish. The 3 coats of finish (the expensive HD stuff) is the Gold Standardbut 2 coats + sealant is still very good. It was one coat of seal. Nordic seal has white pigments. @Mary Elizabeth I think we have narrowed it down to Ciranova's products..after testing theirs, Rubio Monocoat and several Pallman's waxes, plus a number of normal stains. See the photo below if you open the photo you will see the raw wood. Of course, none of this is more than 3 foot square sampleand not my kitchen floor, but we are hopeful that we have an answer. Heres a close up.
Mainstays Farmhouse Oversized Floral | Furniture | ksl.com We have just received a couple samples however and they haven't had the same look as some of the inspiration picture. Red oak stairs - Do I install white oak floors or red? I do have a lot of experience with these stones because I own a Granite, Quartz and Quartzite company. If you don't like the look of "honey oak" then don't use oil based finishes. Sigh. They apply the product too thin and it sets up quicker than recommended. Thank you, I don't know the specific name of it. They did a great job. (Just read the dog drool threads.) That doesn't sound like what you are after. Your floors are beautiful. Any ideas on stain/stain combos and sealants to make it happen? It offers a bigger margin of profit. Doing a light stain like this is not easyand it takes time.
Bona It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. think it turned out well. Think about going stylishly dark instead, The international shows designers bring the focus back to the craftsmanship and luxurious materials of the 1920s, See why an engineered wood floor could be your best choice (and no one will know but you), Gleaming wood floors are a thing of beauty. If the floor looks as good as this little exposed area, Ill be really HAPPY. And, to be fair to the above poster. Your wood may take the coats differently than our wood. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Windows for a 1920's Spanish style home in SoCali. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. Here is a link of various lighting for At Ease (it's not shiny at all). Bona DriFast Stains are compatible with all Bona finishing systems, including waterborne. Traditionally you will ask for QUOTES and then VIEW their work (photos or in person if they have clients who offer their home as a 'show piece' = very rare) and THEN you hire the person who as the best "fit" for your needs. He said my sister was lucky ((so far) he said its really not supposed to be used for countertops. WebChapter IV - Four Eyes Were Reading the Passage I was running the head of my pencil-case along the line as I read it, and something caused me to raise my eyes. I wish I had the link, but there are others that used a combination of stains with weathered oak as the base and it is beautiful as well. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? Not a one. P.P.S. If you have 3000sf then the $2500 upgrade is nothing. How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout. If you go natural, then ask yourself ONE question: "Do I like 'honey oak'?" If you answered NOOOOOOOO! He is also meeting with Sherwin Williams this weekend at a trade show in Vegas and will see if there are any better options to achieve the Studio McGee look on rift white oak we are all looking for. But, my husband and I are closer in agreement. Heres a photo of our family room. After looking into the flooring situation I found that if a wood floor person says "it won't hold up in Florida" theirs won't! A red oak floor does not need sealant. If you you know you are doing something we offer on floor samples (3x3) in many combinations and finishes.
Beyond The Grain Custom Design, Toms River, NJ (2023) Thanks for taking the time to write all that! I originally wanted Corian in the kitchen with a stainless area (Near the cooktop) because they withstand abuse, can be refinished and are hygenic.
Bona A quick scan of my question and then a quick scan of your answer simply lead G & S to believe all 3 coats were put down same day.which happens more than you really want to know. I'm sorry you felt diminished. Would love to see pics of the InteseSeal, as we are considering the same. He told me that the floor would look the same, which was obviously a lie. My fear was that a lower quality finish would yellow or amber the wood. The more coats you apply, the lighter it becomes. I lost confidence in my floor guy - I think he wasn't wiping the stain off but letting it dry on resulting in washed paint look. For those asking to see Intense Seal on white oak.
That makes SOOOO much sense. I used no filter on the photos, on an overcast morning from different angles. WebHealthsmart: 640-8174-1900HS, Healthsmart - 640-8174-1900HS - HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24", White, HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24" L, White, Epoxy-coated Steel It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. Our project starts on Dec 5. I was thinking Bona Natural and then Bona Extra Matte finish? Which one did you end up going with? I also have some design software that may help with your need. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. Sigh. Thank you. @SJ McCarthy @mtpo I did hire an installer who installed my floor and was supposed to refinish it. I read on the Bona website (and others) that TrafficHD coverage was 350-400sf/gal. Is This the Year Blue and Green Kitchen Cabinets Edge Out White? Most of the base cabinets are covered with cardboard to protect them. Thank you. They have little to no chemical resistance. I will have to follow up. There was a warning on the front door telling everyone to stay out. So it comes in at 1025 or 1.25 X 820 sf (amount of flooring ordered with sufficient for waste/scrap. Some comments that NaturalSeal has a slight white cloudiness? NO true Quartzite will etch. And the professional you spoke to is correct: the 'hand sanding' is NO WHERE NEAR the same finish/product as the machine with 'final-grit' sanding. Cochrans offers this wood in different thicknesses and grades which also impacts the price. Dark Hardwood Floors vs. Light Hardwood Floors? All you have are tge home centers to choose from. Otherwise time will turn the white oak yellow regardless of how it looks when freshly finished.
Bona what made you decide to go with natural. He can 'cut in' the edges of the floor with a brush, bite a sandwich, chew, take a drink, go toilette, come back and work the job with a T-barand STILL have time to go over several sections if it looks 'dry'. The builder already ordered the wood. The water-based products are also much easier to work with. ! If youre really interested, Ill call the installer Brazilian Floors and see if he still has the info. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. I think over the years, they learned how to avoid distressed clients who hate the finished floor color. Another problem was that the Bona guy I called was not familiar with Loba products, and I am considering both. It is the way it is normally done. Still a good quality product line, just not the best. I have about 735 sf. However, I guess Ill put off retirement for a few more years to make up the cost. After seeing this post and refinishing parents floor, I want your oak in my house you did fantastic job. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape.
white oak is the only way to go. WebOur new build has white oak hardwoods & Id LOVE to have them look like these. We recently installed new white oak hardwoods and did not like the color they turned out and will be refinishing them again - would love to get it right second time around (felt the floors looked a lot different when complete than our small sample in round one). First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. My installer has Amber i think yhat will be too dark. Not quite "honey oak" but not far from it. The other two will give you more color. The least porous Quartzites are actually called crystalline Quartzites. Most of the articles I read suggested that 3 protective coats is the way to go. My plan was boba natural seal plus 3 coats HD extra matte, but I didnt know about a next final step, please provide detail/product for final sealant step. . @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. Sigh. Also is he recommending abrading between the coats? Attached is a photo of the hardwood unfinished without stain. I will post pictures. It was so clean, perfect match for my cabinets, so WHITE (no yellow, gray or beige cast). It has been a nightmare trying to find this look in my area. We are going with Ciranova "smoke" Unico oil--a one coat product--- which is very similar to Rubio's Smoke 5%, but it can be covered with Ciranova's Fortico (supposedly equal to Bona Traffic). It requires a special approach. Different painters proposing different solutions to calcimine ceiling. You want someone fully trained in the art of the 2-component (2K) water based system. We went with that because the sample board looked exactly like the bare sanded wood, which is what we wanted. so you did one coat of natural and two coats of HD? If you like to see a shiny floor RIGHT AFTER you clean the floor (because it makes you feel like you've accomplished something) then you are what I refer to as a 'clean-shiny' person. Emily Henderson has a white metal railing in her split level home that is pretty gorgeous and widely photographed. Thank you for asking. Looking at pictures of finished jobs of all three, its difficult to tell the difference. They should be able to get the job done for you. And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. (Ive read LOTS of old posts!). Hd and Supra extra matte does not. Yours looks so light and bright.
Bona Natural Seal They make their final grit-pass and then they will place the colour samples down with a coat of finish. And the Nordic seal was beautiful but it was a little cold and it didnt look as good next to a warmer paint color we plan to use. I wish we did three coats of the Traffic HD as he have a ton of traffic (three kids and a dog!) From all Ive read, it seems Bona Traffic HD is the way to go on the finish coats. As G & S states, the sealers will not AMBER over time (as in get DARKER) but the IntenseSeal and the ClassicSeal will offer SOME tan/yellow. 2 coats of Nordic seal & 2 coats of traffic HD ? Is this permissible to use on cabinets. I wish people would just post the actual products they use as there are a lot of great examples but no "recipes". Your floor looks amazing. Michael, do you have pics of the intense seal?
Wood Floor Stain Colors 2023 Ideas and Pictures I have read through almost every post here looking to see how to get the most natural finish without yellowing. I'd say I send back at least 20 bundles a year that are not true Quartzites even though they are passed off to me as such. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. I had some 2 x 2 Corian samples that kept calling my name. They don't like doing it - because they go through SOOO many screening discs (I've heard of more than 12 discs being used in one home). p.s. I didnt want to pull up the protective paper but you can see the floor a little better in this photo. Bona NaturalSeal has a bit of white pigment (less than NordicSeal). YesBona Traffic HD is MUCH more expensive than over-the-counter stuff. I have been on these boards so many times looking for advice and photos from what others have done. They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. Don't disagree with you at all. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. No way to maintain and they ALL show scratches very easily and I should know- I get called a lot because of it Help! (It looks a little pink on my IPad - its not in real life. We will use 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD on top of the sealer. * I didn't know that Classic Sealer added yellow that Natural Sealer did not but I didn't have anything to compare it to. Bona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, Color of the Year: Off-White Is On Trend for 2016, Houzz Tour: A Beautiful Nordic Dream in Sweden, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists.
Bona NaturalSeal I personally love Quartzite. The sand/finish guys sampled natural seal, amber seal and IntenSeal. Trying to make this choice right now(within the next two hours- yikes! We went with the Bona Nordic and Traffic HD. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. I am attempting to coordinate real white oak with white oak LVPthe unfinished white oak is an amazing match to the Paradigm Conquest Windsor and Towerwanting to basically stain/seal the posts and rails in a way that changes the natural state the least, neutralizing any weed tones. @renee, can you post photos of the completed project? If, youre looking for a small amount. If you are someone who loves the look of the 'raw floor' but you HATE the hazy look of NaturalSeal, then I HIGHLY recommend going with the satin. They are still drying and look darker in the photos than they do in person FYI. I absolutely love the floors. Also I highly suggest getting big samples done with all the coatings. This is Bona Natural Seal and Bona Nordic Seal on sanded white oak. Thanks again! You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. Paint them over a piece of white paper and the finish turns orange all by itself! white oak hardwood flooring. Double cost any standard stained finish. Its for a new build. It can work with a range of subfloors, including concrete, Looking for something different from an all-white kitchen? If you said you wanted the look of 'raw wood' then matte is what they would have brought. Can you add some white to the Renner System? So much to consider and my cabinet maker doesn't seem to be able to recreate what I am looking for. @Jonathan Margareten Hi. Use natural seal. Really not read much about IntenSeal? I was asked two separate questions. You should look it up. The trick is to A) find the professional trained in water based finishes and B) keep the sheen to satin or matte. What is your installer recommending?
White @j, @ Renee, It is satin. Did you put your deposit down on a charge card?
sealer for Sandstone I want to make sure the floor is fully coated and not have to buff and finish again sooner than would normally be necessary. It is a way for everyone to see how easy it is to misunderstand posts. @Ashley I just want to lay down on my floors and HUG them!! @tkgriff which did you go with and do you like? Im glad we didnt go darker. We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. The use of water based is VASTLY different from oil based. Shaina.. White Macaubas is a true Quartzite not a granite. The company that supplied the raw wood and the installer both recommend Bona products. Also hope this helps .. colors hard to see on monitor, I tested classic seal, white stain and Nordic seal as well. The people there were very patient with us and very helpful. Rift sawn white oak like we are referencing is not common at all in our location. Anyway, good luck. Prevent the tannin pull so common with white oak. Our hardwood installer actually did one coat sealant last Friday, then a coat of finish later in the day, then Saturday did another coat of finish. 1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. Had my red oak floors done in weathered oak and they are still simply too pink. Being able to apply multiple coats in a day, depends on the square footage of the project.
In a Glass Darkly - Project Gutenberg Australia I like it a lot no visible seam at the back of the countertop). Hi everyone! I agree that Bona Natural or Bona Classic will likely be what we choose. In real life, they dont have as much brown as in the photo. Here are our raw floors right now. Combining Bona NaturalSeal with a matte-sheen finish such as Bona Traffic Naturale preserves that look and gives your floor the Color we like the Bona Nordic best and the Bona Natural second, but they both have a muddy haze when you see them in real life. A gallon of Bona Traffic HD = $180 - $200. Also, Durasupreme got less than good reviews online. Bona Traffic (original) is two steps up from Mega. Thanks for the responses. Then the next day a coat of finish. Can a bathroom door swing out instead of in? I purchased white oak high grade for our railings and black iron - our floors are Provenza At Ease and my railings match GREAT now, but need to seal them - what do you recommend?
Bona Do you know if Duraseal is found in home stores? DuraSeal is light on the wallet (of the contractor) so they like to use it. More great information. We did samples on floor and two coats looks significantly different. Our contractor unfortunately was in a hurry so we didnt test many potential finishes. @mpto Thanks so much, can't wait to see your final product!!
White oak refinish- Bona NaturalSeal This helps our clients make up their minds before doing the whole floor.
Bona Intense on White Oak Carlyweiss, your post and pictures are so helpful for those of us in the choosing process. We love our floors! The edge is not as nicely finished as the Corian. This photo Nordic is on the top and Natural is on the bottom. Here are some of my samples. Can you apply the Bona NaturalSeal and then apply a couple coats of something like the Renner? It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. - I got the curved 1/4 backsplash (if you can call that a backsplash). Originally, I had declared never to Quartz after reading peoples complaints about chipping and cracks. Thank you and the pros who commented for the valuable info! The picture I attached is with one coat of Bona Mega using no stain. Compare that to the 2 MINUTES you have with Bona! Rift white oak lowers and white uppers. MaryJane, My white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona. We sell stone, fabricate and install countertops so we're there every step of the way which keeps me up to date on pretty much every stone that is used today. This looks to be pretty natural with a very matte finish. Our cabinet maker will be finishing them, not us. I DEFINITELY reccomend reading reviews for fabricators before choosing who you'll use . Please help on base, crown, window, door molding size decision. Also hope this helps .. colors hard to see on monitor, I tested classic seal, white stain and Nordic seal as well. Its a shame since it could be helpful for others. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. I am sorry , Thank you!! Site finish your floors with Rubio monocoat and get exactly what you want. What color are your cabinets and what color Corian did you go with? carlyhow many coats of HD did they apply? My cabinets are custom sizes and I was going to go with Barker cabinets (had my order all ready to send), but someone here on houzz recommended I check out this local guy first, and I am so glad I did! Looks like it was a screen shot with the flooring compan of Seattle Hardwood out of Mukilteo. I have lived in my new house for 15 months and I love the look of my floors - they are easy to decorate with and give the home a warm but "cool" look at the same time. WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. Whaaaaat????
if so, the bank may be able to give you your money back if you dispute the charge for red oak and the install. Your comment was devised to make me feel small and make worry about my floors when they are already finished. @Hughey do you know what process for bleaching? @Gilligan GehrityI am lucky (at least where I live) to have a cabinet maker who #1 will fit me into their schedule and #2 is willing to learn a method to satisfy my requests. Back to square one. @Jonathan Margareten- I read through my old post, and am not sure if thats what we ended up doing. They held up to move in with no major scratches. Be warned the wood and multiple coats of Bona products really add up $$$$. When I see Nordic in photos it looks beautiful, but I dont think I want a white wash. Thank you. Met with our selected cabinet company last week and played with stain mixed with white paint on rift oak samples. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. I would rather find a cabinet line that carries white oak in this stain than go with a cabinet maker. Take the time to try all of the sample combinations. I do love the natural color. I cannot find any locally. Give it a light sanding after it dries with 220 or 240 grit sandpaper. I've seen professionals with 40 years experience ruin a water based applicationtwice. We ordered select boards but there were a lot of character boards in the delivery. If you look at my photos above, the wood sample with one coat of Bona Natural sealer and one coat of Matte Traffic HD looked nice too but looked horrible with one coat of Natural and 3 coats of satin Traffic HD. I love your wall and cabinet paint too. Let's see how long this finish last. Ill try to get a better photo next time I go to the house (were still not in). Snowy cabinets and walls speak to a certain elegance, while marble counters whisper of luxury, Give your joints a break while you're standing at the stove, with these resilient and beautiful materials for kitchen floors, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, 7 Kitchen Flooring Materials to Boost Your Cooking Comfort. It won't be cheap but it will be fast. Floors look VERY good! The finish will look different if you start with different white oak. So far, this seems to be going well. The lowest level of gloss I suggest to 'clean-shiny' person is semi-gloss. Get the third coat of sealer. Our contractor informed me that it is significantly more expensive, $2500 more expensive. I got attacked on this thread or another Houzz thread by a contractor for mentioning Rubio for cabinets but I did a ton of research and looked at pictures and it is what we went with. WebMy new white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. I have a small house and should have maximized flow but didn't realize just how much planning that would take at once. As for the cost of install$5/sf with FULL SPREAD glue + stain + sanding + finish (materials extra) is on the low side. Webariel winters leaked what is 2 5 as a decimal holiday craft fairs near me 2022 Try this color if you want a darker shade. Can you share the color? These are the LVP samples and my unfinished white oak stair parts. You will save a little compared to Traffic HD, perhaps $0.25 psf. We went with natural seal and traffic HD finish. Its no different than my quartz countertop and backsplash that also should not have acidic or harsh chemicals, and Im sure most professional contractors wouldnt recommended against quartz behind a stove. They have been through such an immense amount of heat and pressure during formation that all the sand grains have become crystals of Quartz. But they did just complete a project with Bona NordicSeal. I am interested to Nordic seal on my project as well. Thanks. I got a quartz remnant for the tub area (a kinda white) in my hideaway bathroom and Ocean Jasper Quartz for the master ADA bathroom. WebBona DriFast Stain is a premium quick-drying stain for interior hardwood floors. The NaturalSeal will offer the closest to the 'raw look' you are after. I know I've gone on for a while. They're supposed to start the finish tomorrow morning and it is Bona MEGA clear. Nordic seal is not a easy product to put down, unless you have experience. We got select I think its 3/4 thick and 7 wide. The cost is nothing compared to the durability it will give.
Which is why I posted asking for people's experiences today, but I never received any replies. If you are paying for professional grade products, just make sure you are GETTING professional grade products. Same price as Barker, but more choices for color (I'm doing white uppers/rift oak lowers) and lots of help with my kitchen design. I personally see dolomite and dense sandstones misrepresented as Quartzite more then any other material. I have a dog that has an occasional accident. Sigh. Then ask the fabricator about the stone you are considering if it's purchased from a separate slab yard. WebAn icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. She lucked out and her floors look pretty good. It honestly looks just like our white oak (unstained, natural) - I wish I could leave it without sealer etc. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? 1 coat of nordic seal will subtly lighten the color of white oak, while 2 coats of nordic seal will make it significantly lighter. :). Should a distributor be able to walk me through using this product for more details? This only matters for porosity not hardness. My contractor said that I will probably need to use the renew oil every few year which I am fine with.