They are solid shooters except for the MiniMax II SC model. If you try to sell it to a gun shop, you can basically expect jack squat. Mod. Llama records appear to be non existent on any of the guns they sold or they are being held in seclusion. Whatever you buy from them, gives us a small commission, which helps us keep these sites alive. I ;ur-po: rwp*.T5p. Serial number has been in two different places also. Gavage Automatic Pistol Armand Gavage Fab. The serial number is C23709. It resembles the Star model H. This particular gun was not marked Model Police on the right side of the slide. The serial number on the handgrip of a Llama Model II is "HLT". Industry Announcements and Press Releases, Questions and Suggestions about M1911.ORG sites, Your Opinion about M1911.ORG and its sites, More than one of the above (questions pertaining to more than one brands), US Military Issue M1911 and M1911A1 Pistols, Commercial Colt Government Model, Ace, SM Ace, Super .38 and Commander pistols. VII.-This pistol in 9 mm. ! ' Locked Breech as you can see in the photo below, 161mm overall length, 94mm barrel and 8 round magazine. I won't shoot them much, but would like to get a couple of each just in case.my son and daughter might appreciate that when they go to sell 'emm after I'm gone. I got interested in the baby Llamas because they were pretty well made minature 1911s. It looks like all but the 25-2 are sporting their original stocks. It was manufactured from about 1936 to 1954. I know the basic history of Llama but I'm not sure exactly what model we have. Hungarian 'Pistole Mod. But unless the owner speaks up and wants to sell, then you'll never know. Marlin firearms are kept in a database along with other manufactured firearms for easy reference. So that should put it in the 1936-1954 catagory. It has been suggested that the name Modello IV may have been reserved for the Tauler pistol which is identical to it. Browning filed a law suit against Beristain for patent infringement but lost the suit in 1925 . Not complaining but I'm curious why this got moved since the my Llama is a 1911 design. 1911 Pistols manufactured for foreign Governments either in US or outside US. :!,!,^!,!,^,!,', I I' I I'Hj H1 I 1'I I11'II I I t' 1 U' 1 M > I I I< j 1:' I 1I'' 'J IM''. 5T' ^ .f l.ri^amln.TlMMt.ffl,;,!,! It has been suggested that the name Modello IV may have been reserved for the Tauler pistol which is identical to it. iflilimtT' ' f ^ I I' I III HJ I IH|' > M' HJ I I' I' IM f I 'J M M *!I' * I n, 'Til :l'llll!llM)|l|'|i||? Jun 24, 2012. It came to me directly from Spain via my importer. Most likely there are many out there but this type of gun was never put in German records or marked with Nazi marks. This Micro Max was made in 1997 and was produced using one of the slides from the previous series and not putting the compound curve at the front. 1 ; . ' Beristain contracted with Gobilondo to make the gun and production started in 1920. Parabellum caliber was produced. I have only seen five of them in the last 15 years. The first pistol produced was an exact copy of the Colt Mod. III and is merely a smaller version of that model (Fig. Blow back operated, 5 shot mag,2 3/8" barrel, 4 3/4" overall length, 13 3/4oz. through the alphabet once, they started with "A*1," then "B*1" Feb 2, 2021. series guy said: 1980, 1997, 1980, and 1996. This intriguing book focuses on the ninja's techniques and training. The right side says LLAMA "ESPECIAL". *f j : 11: t i : ' : ' i?. For Swiss bayonets you can use the SwissWaffen . The winning bid was over $900. 'I >.>ltll7llll'tt'7' ll' |1'11 * 1 >J <111 | | 11111 1111. caliber, was issued along with Mod. VII. The next symbol is the flaming bomb stamp which was first introduced on December 14, 1929. This pistol is in good condition and comes with one magazine. A Note About Vintage Guns. Earlier issues had a lanyard ring at bottom of left side of the grip frame, but this ring was omitted in later issues and the grip pieces were redesigned. 1111 > 'i^lll >', fni'Tf-' ' , ' .f1.!!.!,. The pistol was in beautiful shape, and I believe untouched. Jlllll;|!||'|!llii||.|,l||M[|in!Hltlltlllll, No. The photograph on the right is of the butt or heel of the pistol with the magazine inserted. Thanks for the link. models of 1903, 1906, 1910, and 1922. number in order to tell the age of a firearm.560996. This mark is what the law calls for except it would have been nice if the importer would have hid this stamp under the grips rather then stamping it on the side of the receiver. I n 11 ' I J .J. iT : ! Second Variant Humpback The second variant has the serial number on the left arm of the slide, near the front. Your help is appreciated. The trigger guard is shaped for a better two-hand hold, and the sights are fixed. This handgun comes with one 6-round magazine. The germans 'adopted' many commercial pistols to equip their military, Belgian, Polish, Italian etc., but I have never seen a commercial Llama. Both the solid rib and the vent rib were used, Llama model -XI 9mm P. The first design had the W spring detent and possibly came with only lined wood grips asthat is the only way I have seen them. This is an importers stamp that is now required to be placed on firearms that have entered the U.S. Spanish Blue Steel. in three different positions on the slide and the Model Police is usually toward the front. They started making a gun in 1914 based on the Browning 1903 and the modifications of the design by earlier guns like the Astra Victoria 1911 and called it the Ruby. I am researching a mark on my.380 Llama with serial number 6XXXX. If you still have trouble finding results for Llama Serial Number after simplifying your search term then we strongly suggest using the alternative sites (linked above . It was my understanding that these guns were made in 1997 only, but this one was made in 2001 and is chrome plated. Safety is mounted on the slide and when activated, it moves the firing pin out of the reach of the hammer and locks it, then decocks the hammer and also disconnects the trigger bar. Estimated Value *Using 80% condition for calculating used Values. 'Izarra' Pistola Automtica Bonifacio Echeverra Eibar, Spain No. There are 3 on a typical commerical arm, and four on a typical military arm. models of 1903, 1906, 1910, and 1922. I am sorry it didn't keep them from going under. Llama actually started manufacturing these handguns as the Model IX back in 1936, this Llama IX-A was manufactured in 1984. All Rights Reserved. I am almost always in the market for these guns so if you have something you want to get rid of let me know. t i^ 11n t,.i 11, i 7i i 't rwi . It could also be purchased with a 13 round magazine. It is not aBeretta 92 but a Llama design. nf I tutmTItinln li!i?ttl-'0|Milli'^ z r; 111 'In irlu'f m-Tniilniifi!--: m'T'-'-y ; ri-i-ij ^ i < i J.immtim , j11 ' i ' i | i11 ' ' I 1 ' I Ij 1111111 i n I M M . Ensure that the firearm is completely unloaded. On the opposite side of the slide it reads: LLAMA- GABILONDO Y CIA VITORIA (ESPANA) The serial number is listed after the word "Serial Number," "SSN," "S/N," or "SN.". Shown with grips that I think were never used on US imports. It was produced from 1936 and was still made in 1953 but does not appear in 1955 factory literature. The used value of a LLAMA AUTO 45 pistol has fallen $0.00 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $374.18 . I do not have this gun at the time to show pics. III. II.-This 9 mm. iiull.l'%'lr. 'IlllillililT^ililfllllliHlil, 7.65 mm. It just looks almost brand new with almost no wear. Likewise, the year 1981 was represented with the code A2. The 25-2 would have had factory Goncalo Alves checkered target stocks. X. Mod. This tells you the gun's maker. Unless one of the Llamas has this mark or you have the bring back papers you cannot tell for sure if it was used in Germany during the war or not. I, to which no model number was originally assigned. Check the Serial Number data field in the BIOS Main menu. 329 7.65 mm. X.-This pistol, in 7.65 mm. Search the Handgun Database X Use this form to search our database for handgun specifications, information and market values. i in I m iTii mi h1 h m li ii?i n nln m IimiIhmIi in In i?l 11 n Im7?Im nlitill m li li m^lin i Iniilni li, 111111111 j. Officers were to furnish their own guns so many Llamas were sold, although I have only seen one large caliber gun with the Geco mark. s U i'*i* V k I ! If you still have trouble finding results for Llama Serial Number after simplifying your search term then we strongly suggest using the alternative sites (linked above). 324 7.65 mm. 'l''',!' Early versions of this gun were marked as Military and Police on the right side with 9mm Bergman 38 Superon the front of the slide. Also, based on the fact there are no . It is a Tauler model VI and is exactly what the Llama model VI looks like. I'm trying to identify it. If this was a coin, it would no doubt raise its value, but I doubt if it did that for this pistol. It has no lock back on the slide at all. You may also find this gun MarkedSuper Police on the right side of the slide. In 1931 it was decided to modernize Bev Fitchett's Guns Survival (current) FREE Military Tough 6-in-1 Tactical Survival Knife Free 2nd Amendment Gun Rights Silver Coin Answer (1 of 37): Without law enforcement being involved you really cannot trace a firearm in the United States. The demand of new LLAMA 32ACP pistol's has risen 1 units over the past 12 months. A LLAMA 32ACP pistol currently has too little sold data to calculate an average price. Any ideas? It has no dovetail for the rear sight and both sights are silver soldered on, so it almost has to be Llama made entirely. Apparently derived from the 1900 Model Mannlicher. III.-This was a 9 mm. This dates from about 1935 and was produced until about 1954. By your date code I bet you have the III-A which is not marked anywhere on the slide. The gun could have been deemed "unserviceable" and destroyed. Above the serial number it says "STOEGER INDUSTRIES" L. Selbstlader' Fr. Mod. Llama 380 Serial Number HistoryLlama Serial Number YearLlama 45 Serial Number LookupLlama Pistol Ser. Some details concerning the various Llama models are as given below. Llama XI B - 9mm P _ Commander size with 4.340" barrel. Spanish law more or less says if you do not make it in Spain the patent is no good, so Browning lost. ' r nn< . HACKENSACK, N.J.' And then on the bottom of it all it is stamped 'Made in Spain'. VI.-This has been reported to be in 9 mm. VII.-This pistol in 9 mm. In the link provided, there is an example shown for '6 78' with a guess of 1978, though it's not certain. X-A.-This is identical to Mod. Langenhan Zella-Mehlis, Germany No. I I I I^.i I.I I I I^ I) I I I I tea* . It was an imitation of Colt Mod. After the close of World War II certain models were dropped, grip safeties were added to the remaining models, and a .22 caliber pistol was introduced. 'IlllillililT^ililfllllliHlil r ,.,.,!ffl.7l0,i|i,1.l,*.,.,I,il.m, r ' r ! ' On the flat plate on the bottom of the gun, just rear of where the magazine is inserted, look for a letter, set of letters or a word. 'Le Secours' Marketed by Garate, Anitua y Cia. Manufactured Under Item:14505864 Gabilondo & Cia Llama Model VII Modelo Extra 9mm Largo, Blue 5 " SA Semi-Automatic Pistol, MFD 1932-44 C&R For Sale at GunAuction.com