The HOI4 Adoriasim SIG is a meta group aiming to create a hoi4 mod out of Adoria with its extensive in sim and pre-sim lore. Once created, Vichy France will find itself in control of southern Metropolitan France as well as most of France's colonial empire. We don't know what to expect these following months, but we will face it together! The greeks and the turks joined the Axis and the polish finally annexed Romania and put troops all over my border and sent the ultimatum i accepted it because I did not want to be crushed. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. It is a rather good air force, but it will need to be significantly strengthened before the war starts. After our defeat we are really in no condition to contest it. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Once Vichy France completes the tree, however, it will switch over to the regular French national focus tree (with the National Regeneration path unlocked). . Then WW2 kicked off Poland-Romania did not accept the ultimatum, the Germany player was kind of angry about it but in a civilised manner. Requires National Focus, Can justify wargoals against a country that have not generated world tension, DD battery II, AA I, TT I, TT II, DC I, Light Engine III, 2xCL I batteries, TT I, scout plane I, no armor, 2xCL II batteries, 2xAA I, mines, no armor, 2xAA I, 2xCL II batteries, scout plane I, CL armor I, 2xCA I battery, AA I, TT I, scout plane I, CA Armor I, 2xCA I batteries, 2x AA I, scout plane I, CA Armor I, 2xBB I batteries, 2x AA I, 2xSecondary I, Scout Plane 1, BC Armor II, 2xBB I batteries, 1xAA I, 3xSecondary I, BB Armor I, 2xBB I batteries, 2xAA I, 2xSecondary I, BB Armor I, 2xBB II batteries, 2xAA I, scout plane II, 2xSecondary II, BB Armor II. Enabled if: If they opt to encourage non-interference, success will give them a stability boost. With the regime in Berlin ratcheting up the tension over the border between them and Yugoslavia, the British have made the decision to stand against German aggression. I got pissed and console annexed the UK. The problem with fielding a modern army will be expanding France's production base, which is both extremely limited and faced with the prospect of crippling manpower shortages in the very near future in 1936. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Ruling party is Democratic, Has completed focus Integralism Also, when they join, do they get rid of their yugoslav guarantee? As for the military, Vichy France's military situation is a bit unpredictable, as Vichy France is only created if France is capitulated by Germany, which will cause the majority of the French military to be dismantled. Interestingly, the way these decisions are coded make it entirely possible for a Fascist France to intervene on the side of Republican Spain and also drag the Axis in. Despite our best efforts to offer support to the Little Entente, our most recent attempt to reach out to one of the nations has been met with skepticism. The British government has dismissed any possibility of merging our two nations into one. r/hoi4. Our victory in France is nearly complete. We are in the enviable position of having very low unemployment, partially because of the massive bloodshed of the Great War. With the regime in Berlin ratcheting up the tension over the border between them and Yugoslavia, the British have chosen to give way. >_>. How to prevent this? The Prussian Menace was a nightmare. If they opt to interfere, however, they will unlock a series of decisions - said decisions will boost war support; after getting war support to a certain level, France can opt to intervene directly in the Spanish Civil War. Valve Corporation. So how did your first MP game go. ( they discussed it on chat) Turkey capped and the Turkey player started raging. Germany has earned our trust in the honoring of our Naval Pact, and while we will defend ourselves should the fires spread we will not risk fanning the flames. Nationalist Spain. Should an aggressive adversary like Germany threaten its heartland, France is unlikely to be willing to sustain defensive efforts that could see the entire country devastated. Japan and other Asian countries asked to join my faction and join the war which helped since it caused russia to stack some of their forces on their eastrn front which helped my war with them even more. This is a community maintained wiki. Barbarossa has not kicked off yet. Whilst few would doubt that Monsieur Daladier has been a fine prime minister, he simply could not contend with the extraordinary set of circumstances in which France has found herself. At world tension above 50% you can expect any nation you attack to always seek to join a faction of the same ideology OR willing to go at war with you, if one exists. on Paradox technology, Legal Note that one can spawn Carlist Spain on Historical if certain conditions are met (while this won't allow you to gain Brazilian Cores, you can still gain cores on all of Iberia if Spain forms that nation) - as soon as the Spanish Civil War begins, start Intervention in the Spanish Civil War and rush the decision for Volunteers. Significant rivers include the river Rhine between France and German Reich, Le Rhne to the southeast, La Seine to the northwest, La Loire which runs through the center, and La Garonne which runs in the southwest. Ruling party is Democratic, Has completed focus Buy Time If invaded and puppeted or freed by German Reich or Italy, it will turn into Free France. How should we respond? Britain has agreed to merge our two nations into one. Charles de Gaulle delivered a radio broadcast urging resistance against the collaborationist Vichy regime. The Soviets. 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I'm guessing they did their focus ahistorically by chance. 'While we have enjoyed good relations in the past, we cannot risk an escalation of the conflicts across the channel. Military production is dwarfed by Germany (20 more factories) and Italy (11 more factories) and only on par with Belgium. Since Free France can only be created by having France be allied with the United Kingdom and is a government-in-exile hosted by the UK, it will remain in the Allies.. Military [edit | edit source]. Then strangely, the Italy player joined the Allies too and the polish, hungarians the British and their puppets started gangbanging Germany. France starts 1939 with a small, but modern air force. Yet the wounds of the last war are not yet healed and our country is deeply divided, are we strong enough to go it alone? France has a focus to unlock decisions concerning whether to intervene in the Spanish Civil War, or encourage non-interference by other parties. If the allies are already at war, but not against you, the nations you attack are likely to try and join them but depending one who you play and what's your relation with the allies, they may be reluctant to join the war, especially if you're co-belligerent. \daddystalin WT also decreases over time, soif you aren't at war with the allies, waiting is always an option. Diplomacy [edit | edit source]. I initially sent volunteers to the democratic France. Many in their government wish to seek an armistice with Germany, but some have responded favorably to a suggestion by members of the British War Cabinet to merge our two nations into one. Should prove that we are the greater power and risk fighting alone? As for the Free French military, the situation is even more unpredictable than with Vichy France.While Vichy France will usually retain control of at least a portion . In an effort to strengthen the Little Entente - Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and Romania - and contain the possible resurgence of aggressive expansionism on part of the old Central Powers, France has requested that we join them in an alliance aiming to bring these nations together. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. You really can't, you have to fight the allies in like 1940-1941 if you want to not play passive. If successful, this will deny the Allies a valuable staging ground from which they could harass . France has access to huge amounts of Steel and Aluminum. Press J to jump to the feed. Regardless of what Vichy France gets, it will usually only be left with a few leftover fragments of the previous french military and will thus have to rebuild it. If a nation is being justified upon, the allies AI will try to lay a guarantee on it if it can. Forget the past and look to new horizons. This will greatly reduce the output of our factories and is viewed as a victory for [Root.GetCommunistParty]. #hoi4 #Heartsofiron4 If Japan decides to join the allies instead - Hoi4 TImelapse 3,376 views Mar 2, 2022 98 Dislike Share ManiaGin 2.17K subscribers Ai makes some weird decisions that i. If France elects to collaborate with Germany, Germany will be given the choice between establishing the Vichy Regime and warring France into the ground. becuase fighting england as germany is just a chore . All rights reserved. However, their government is divided, with Communist influences threatening to weaken it further. The german player annexed Austria and i asked him that will he attack me. Additionally, through the focus "French Union", France can gain cores on any of their colonies in Africa, the Middle East, or Indochina, although the cores gained will differ as the outcome is always random - interestingly, if Morocco, Algeria, or Tunisia was to form Andalusia, then be re-conquered by France, it can still agree to be cored through French Union, which would result in France gaining all cores that Morocco had (hypothetically, the same would be true for Arabia if Lebanon or Syria were to form the nation, be re-conquered by France, and then agree to be cored through French Union), although this would be slightly redundant if Legitimist France was to do so, as Andalusia requires Spain and Portugal to be formed) - note that the Blum-Violette proposal would not grant France cores on Andalusia if formed this method, as said focus is fixed in regards to what cores it grants. They also control large supplies of Rubber, Chromium and Tungsten from their Asian colonies. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Once you get the news article detailing that their has been a royal marriage between Brazil and Portugal you can move on. Since every war/annexion/justification will increase world tension, it's simply impossible for you to keep world tension low enough to invade Europe as a whole without angering the allies at some point. If you want to avoid fighting England it's probably easier just to support a fascist coup in London. As France, have at least 150 Destroyers and research the maximum torpedo launcher technology, before 1945. France also controls a large number of overseas territories and colonies including, Algeria, Syria, Madagascar, and resource-rich Indochina. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. If the allies are already at war, but not against you, the nations you attack are likely to try and join them but depending one who you play and what's your relation with the allies, they may be reluctant to join the war, especially if you're co-belligerent. View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit. If the capital is in neither of the states Ile de France (16) or New Caledonia (635) and is controlling New Caledonia (635): Changes the capital state to New Caledonia (635), Creates a dynamic country originating from. on Paradox technology, Legal If Germany agrees to establish the Vichy Regime (which they most likely will), France will be split into Free France and Vichy France. I guess that just means I cannot attack an commies without taking daddy russia out first. Somewhat historical, like by 1 or so. To the east lies Switzerland and Italy lies to the Southeast separated by the huge Alps mountain range. France, along with the United Kingdom, guaranteed the independence of Poland prior to its invasion by Germany. I go after a country then immediatly after I declare war they join the comminterm and now im at war with russia and then I get instantly rekt. These are the results. Faction: Neutral. Be sure to kick Czechoslovakia out of the faction before Sudetenland as otherwise you will end up in a war with Germany too early. Questions, Paradox Vichy France will start off with the following economy laws: Vichy France will also retain whatever industry and resources that end up within its zone of jurisdiction (the rest will end up under German occupation). France joins allies when they shouldn't.why? On top of that, the French military leadership is made up of old guards who are inexperienced with modern warfare and dangerously complacent regarding the intentions of their enemies. Use the four years of preparation as the answer to your question, after that you fight the allies either way. Many of these designs are clearly aimed against an anti-surface role, prioritizing fast, lightly-armored ships with minimal ASW capability and strong scouting capabilities. Luxembourg is one of the minor nations in HOI4. Eventually I got dragged completely into the War and now Half of Europe, Japan, some of India, the USA, and a few more is at war with the UK (now commie), USSR, Yugoslavia (Tito got stomped already), Australia, etc., etc., etc.. France is quite possibly the best candidate to form the European Union as if staying democratic, it can expect to end up in a defensive war against both Germany and Italy, allowing both countries to be annexed in a single peace treaty. Their political integration has been halted, but no doubt the nations will continue to be close friends in the future. Any time a country that is part of a faction attacks another country, the defending country will join an opposing faction. If allied with the United Kingdom (which can annex all of its dominions and even the United States to form the Imperial Federation), these two titans can easily become the dominant superpowers of the post-war world order. any ways to increase the likelyhood of this happening? Alternatively, if France is Democratic and aligned with the UK (the UK can be any ideology), they can instead propose joining the two countries in the Franco-British Union - this decision will end the game for the French Player if the UK accepts, but in return, the British player will gain all existing French cores (this can include any gained through other methods), all French Units, Ships, Generals, Admirals, and equipment; while the Union can remain afterwards if the British player opts not to let France go independent when the Union is at peace, they will lose all French cores and generals/admirals if they choose to do so. Once Vichy France completes its National Focus Tree, however, they will regain control of all of Metropolitan France with the exception of Alsace-Lorraine and Savoy, which will be annexed by Germany and Italy, respectively. France's colonial empire on the other hand, was either occupied by the United Kingdom and the Free French forces under general Charles de Gaulle in the small mountainous country of Andorra or conquered by the Axis powers (Primarily Italy and Japan). When at peace, the Allies AI (specifically, that of the leader of the Allied faction, and to a lesser extent that of France) is tweaked to try to protect european nations, and to some extent other ones such as in the middle east. Government type: Democratic, Conservative. They are located in the Iberia region of Southwest Europe. With its far-flung and vast colonial possessions, defending them against attack will require a higher concentration of light, fast forces compared to Metropole defense. Yes, you can actually join Allies as any nations with either dem/fas/com/non-align but World Tension is need to be high enough > 50% and you are at war with their enemy, for example Fascist/Communist France can join Allies if they are fighting Germany. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Is not in a faction with United Kingdom. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The Panzers then drovewithout waiting for infantry to secure their supply linesthrough France to the English Channel, surrounding the bulk of the Allied forces which had been sent to Belgium's border with Germany aiming to deny them room for mobile warfare and overconfident that their main thrust would be through Belgium as in WWI's Schlieffen Plan. Using his extensive powers, Ptain effectively abolished the Third French Republic and replaced it with the "French State" (French: tat Franais) or the "French Nation (French: Nation Franais)colloquially known as Vichy France (French: Rgime de Vichy)a unitary authoritarian dictatorship. Major reforms are needed to make our economy more competitive in the global scale. Faction: Neutral. Join. But then the turkey player kicked Greece out of faction so the does not end. The French national focus tree can be divided into 5 branches and 7 sub-branches: France starts with very good tanks, having unlocked 2 levels of the light tanks tree. ". While still a major industrialized country, France has been left behind in terms of concentration of production capabilities. As Italy I joined a bunch of European nations to invade Germany and destroy it. Having fortified the border gives France the opportunity to plan and prepare carefully, but it does sacrifice some flexibility in the event of something unexpected. If we agree to their request, we are effectively signing over control of Indochina to them. They are evidently seeking to enslave us all we have no choice but to fight to the last! Similarly, France can act differently in response to German demands for Sudetenland than the UK; if the UK agrees to let Germany have the Sudetenland, the French can either agree with the UK, which will also cancel their guarantee on Yugoslavia, or refuse to go along with the UK and form a faction with Czechoslovakia. If Germany goes down it's historic tree, France can opt to mobilize in response to the remilitarization of the Rhineland (taking this decision has a steep cost in political power and stability; note that they can only object if Germany completes the Focus Rhineland; if Germany remilitarizes the Rhineland by going to war, France cannot object). If playing on multiplayer with a player-controlled Soviet Union, one method is to have them join the war and have them declare on the Benelux countries - as this will drag them into the Axis, they can be taken into the peace deal. But then the turkey player kicked Greece out of faction so the does not end. are there anyways to stop france from joining the allies . French political parties are increasingly calling for the establishment of a provisional government and a general election. They will also be lacking in industry compared to France and will also have to watch out for Free France, a French resistance movement led by general Charles de Gaulle who will try to contest the Vichy regime's control over France and seek to overthrow it. An alternative (albeit untested) way to form the EU is to allow Hungary to become a major power and then occupy and hold the territories needed before the peace deal. With the end of the war, the need to maintain a close union with the French nation is also passing. Privacy Policy. Messages 2.247; The forces of Germany were able to quickly overrun northern France, capturing Paris without a fight. Information, Frequently Asked 'Our request to join Britain as Allies has been accepted. By selecting this Design Company it will permanently affect capabilities on all equipment researched while they are hired. Has completed focus Invite Communist Ministers Questions, Paradox On April 1st, 1937, with WT at 28%, well below the 50% threshold for them to autojoin the allies and almost 7 months before they could join by focus.they out of nowhere join the allies, dragging the UK into my war. PDXCON Dozens of runs where this early war against France goes off without a hitch, I change one thing, one insignificant thing and out of nowhere it all goes to hell. France borders Belgium to the north, with the Ardenne forest making natural bulwark. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast . The minute they finished the great purge I declared war since it gives them organization. +35 01. France has, a unique potential to gain cores on The Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Brazil, Germany, and Italy through incredible luck. They have no access to Oil so they need to import that. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. Examples of alternative division template names for France include: France has 1 Carrier(CV), 5 Battleships(BB), 7 Heavy Cruisers(CA), 7 Light Cruisers(CL), 52 Destroyers(DD) and 63 Submarines(SS) at the start, and boasts a somewhat modern - if badly understrength - fleet. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. That being said, if a player takes control of France and is able to iron out all of the country's internal problems and strengthen the military-industrial complex enough before war breaks out, they are in a good position to repulse and defeat both Germany and Italy and annex both countries, thus ending those threats for good. After the crushing and humiliating defeat, Germany and Italy annexed territories of eastern France (equivalent to the states of Alsace-Lorraine, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, Savoy, Nice and Corsica in-game) while the rest of metropolitan France was placed under the jurisdiction of Vichy France, a German client state led by Marshal Philippe Ptain with its de facto capital in the French town of Vichy. France can form the European Union if Democratic, and if they have , can also form the Kingdom of Franco-Spain if they go Legitimist and Spain also goes Carlist (on historical, the Carlists will almost never spawn if the player is not in charge of Spain and will only spawn on historical if Franco does not secure the North in time; unlike with Spain, France can form the Kingdom of Franco-Spain even if Spain has a different king) - if Spain was to obtain any other cores, France would also gain said cores (Gibraltar if the UK decolonizes or Spain forms Iberia, and any Portuguese cores gained by Spain as a result of forming Iberia - this can include Brazil, Angola, and Mozambique if Portugal was able to core those territories). ohhhh I didnt know that about how theyll join an opposing faction. We must look at the state our country and not accept, but change the outcome of this war. Thinking their chances poor regardless, Germany gambled on a decisive victory by sending Panzer divisions through Luxembourg and the Ardennes' forested hills, terrain which the French supreme commander Gamelin thought unable to sustain tank movements. This national spirit can be removed though the national focus tree. We have begun work on improving the fortifications of the Alpine Line. I composed the music for the Battle for the Bosphorus pack. France can form the European Union through a decision if it is democratic and controls the requisite territories (those being all of its own starting core states a well as the starting core states of Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg. 2019, https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=France&oldid=60463, Countries with unique National Focus trees, Articles with potentially outdated sections, Articles with potentially outdated tables, Play This is offset by a major penalty to doctrine research, making it extremely time-consuming to develop proper doctrines. That would either be when world tension is too low (below 25% democracies cannot guarantee), or when they have too many guarantees already (each guarantee costs 25PP more than the last, so if you trick them into guaranteeing many nations it'll become harder and costlier for them to guarantee even more). Went and took out british Raj next to free up my eastrn allies. Note that once you go to war with Germany, you'll have to recall those volunteers, so after the Carlists Spawn, delete your existing tank volunteers and immediately send some new ones to Carlist Spain (at the start of the game, France starts with 6 tank Divisions - convert all of these to the template with motorized, and you'll have several good divisions on your hands), and use them to clean up as much of the other factions as possible before going to war with the nations required for the EU. After forming the EU, you must restore the monarchy through the Lgitimistes, continue down the focus tree, but before completing be sure that Spain has formed the Iberian union ( if they did the focus for the Iberian union but Portugal refused, if the save is ironman, immediately alt f4, but if on regular mode, reload to the latest auto save until Portugal accepts), Upon completing Focus to annex Spain, you should have cores on all of western Europe (Spain gets a core on Gibraltar when it forms Iberia) and Brazil (if Portugal was able to integrate Mozambique and Angola, you also gain cores on those states as well). Has completed focus Infantry Tanks Information, Frequently Asked Civilian to Military Factory conversion cost: This page was last edited on 23 February 2023, at 01:36. Following the sacking of two workers at a large factory, struggles between workers and factory owners have erupted across the country. The main problem with forming the EU as France is the inability to annex Belgium, Netherlands, and Luxembourg but this can be worked around by going down the French Entente line in the focus tree. Once the Axis powers are defeated and the peace treaty commences, annex the BeNeLux (Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg) countries in their entirety and as much of Italy and Germany in the first peace treaty as possible. We are invited to Matignon for negotiations. If you have land forts around level 6 or higher then the Axis nations will be very hesitant to assault your positions and you can focus on taking down Italy. Hi, let me introduce myself! Tho if they hate you they'll be eager instead. Disjointed Government, Political Violence and Inefficient Economy can possibly be removed by completing National Focuses in the Popular Front/National Bloc branch. This page was last edited on 31 July 2022, at 13:58. France starts with four National Spirits in Man the Guns and more in La Rsistance: With the Man the Guns expansion enabled, France starts with an additional national spirit: Victors of the Great War can be removed by completing the Army Reform focus at the bottom of the Begin Rearmament branch. As US u won't be able to take nothing. As France, complete the "Little Entente" National Focus, and have all German cores owned by you or someone in your faction. Their heartland in Europe is rich; almost half of Africa is under their control, and they have colonies in Indochina, Syria, and Guyana, not to mention direct control of islands in all the oceans of the world. So I embarked on a five year mission of destroying every allied nation. Then took out Canada and America then the rest surrenderd since they were all small countries. He was so weak that I guerenteed him as a joke and he thanked me for it. If you spot a mistake then you are welcome to fix it. Just hold the magniot line and invade france trough Italy or go after Benelux. Only Italy's and Germany's starting regions are needed so a German Republic forming in Austria or an Italian Republic forming in Albania (due to Allied demands) is very convenient if you can cut then off and stop them from getting more land in the peace deal.